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for a ban on assault weapons and high- capacity ammunition magazines. the nra says congress will not approve either. we will spend the hour on guns, believing -- beginning with colin goddard, a survivor of the virginia tech massacre that killed 32. >> we're up against an industry, pe le who profit when others use bullets. we really have to engage the citizens of voice to drown out the industry that profits from shootings like this continually in our country. >> will host a debate about placing armed police officers in schools. critics say this helps school- to-prison. the deep financial ties to the firearm industry. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. president obama is set to propose sweeping new gun restrictions today more than a month after the newtown school massacre. obama reportedly will call for a ban on assault weapons and high- capacity ammunition magazines as well as expanded background checks for gun buyers. in washington, jay carney said obama will hold the campaign- style public even to unveil his
violence in our country. among the vice president's guests today were the nra. how that went and how it stands up to ezra's thesis is coming up. chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not for children under 18. people taking maois, linezolid or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes. tell your doctor about all your medicines, including those for migraine and while on cymbalta, call right away if you have high fever, confusion and stiff mu
on this subject. the gun lobby, the nra at least, in some ways is a victim of their own success. their political m.o. is to prevent anybody from even bringing up gun control legislation, to make it seem politically impossible to even broach the subject. and so they're not used to having the debate, their side of the argument, with powerful, motivated, organized proponents of the opposite view. in other words, they have been so successful at shutting down any possible debate over gun control in this country that they now seem legitimately surprised that there might be a legitimate debate in this country over gun control. their reaction today to their meeting with vice president joe biden in washington was that they said they were disappointed. that was their word, "dispointed," that one of the subjects of discussion was reforming gun laws. what did you think you were there to talk about? this is the list of gun owner groups and gun advocacy groups that vice president biden met with today. in this ongoing series of meetings he's having toward producing a list of recommendations that we now know will
happens back home. it's going to be the mothers and the parents and hunters and members within the nra and veterans returning home who understand the impact of assault rifles and high capacity clips. this is going to bring about the change. i believe enough in my republican colleagues, i watched so many of them endure their own conferences not to provide relief for sandy yesterday. i see this change that is coming and it's slow and gradual and the president said don't underestimate the power of the gun lobby in washington, d.c. these are common sense, practical solutions. members have to be unafraid to stand in the way as john lewis would say. >> thank you. i greatly appreciate your time. are the me bring in our panel, tim murphy and senior political reporter for politico and michael smerconish, a radio talk show host. let me start with you. there is an article today that said why president obama's gun plan may be doomed and said there strong indications that comprehensive legislation won't even see a vote on the house flew. you heard me. wasn't to put him on the pot, but i watched lik
to "morning joe." it's funny, that ad was fake. we have a real one by the nra which we will show you coming up, which it should be fake. it's wednesday, january 16th. good to have everyone with us. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. hello, mike. >> hello. >> you look nice today. >> thank you. >> donny, doesn't he put together well in. >> on the barnicle scale. >> he's adorable. chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. >> but -- you know what? it's okay. i put a lot of effort into my has be haberdashery and still no comment. >> now ceo of melanie barnes solutions, melanie barnes, you worked in the white house very high up. huh. interesting. notice anything here, gentlemen? >> yeah, where is he? >> oh, joe's here. he's coming. he's going to pop up on screen. i was just noticing that melanie happens to be a woman and worked in the white house. >> and worked in the white house. >> good god! >> policy adviser. >> this is something. take note. no, but i should do a blog on cool women like you. so we'll have to catch up. and joe's going to be joining us. actually i see
and dick durbin taking on the head of nra. wayne la pierre. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows for the sales? >> if you are a dealer, that's already the law. >> that's not my question. i'm not trying to play games here. if you could, just answer my question. >> i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately that it does any good to extend the law to private sales in collectors. >> worry all due respect that was not the question asked. >> i think it is the answer. we have to get in the real world on what works and doesn't work. my problem with background checks is you are never going to get criminals to go through several background checks. >> mr. la pierre, that's the point. the criminals won't purchase the guns because there will be a background check that stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. it's basic. >> i think you missed -- >> let there be order. please wait. i said earlier, there will be order. >> joining me now from washington is connecticut senator richard blumenthal who said as a member of the judiciary co
since nowtown, not without a fiekt from the nra and the gun lobby. our next guest lee fong, contributing writer for "the nation," and he is here with the latest on what gun manufacturers are doing. welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks for having me. >> when i see these numbers on guns, it's astonishing how much this tragedy has changed these numbers. >> this tragedy was unique, one because it was so horrific, but two, we saw a lot of political leadership that we haven't seen in previous massacres. with the shooting in wisconsin we didn't see the president campaigning and top democrats calling for reform. that has changed this time. >> michael: something that has changed is the way that the nra is being side stepped now by the gun manufacturers themselves. tell us a little bit about how that is happening and how different that is? >> typically the big gun manufacturers have stayed in the sidelines largely. instead they funnel money and coordinate with idealogical groups. usually the nra to push a very hard line and push their public policy pref
into the nra membership retention themes which are basically fear and paranoia. >> stephanie: right. >> the notion that -- the only reason that any of the things that we mentioned are scary is if you are convinced that the government is going to come get you. >> stephanie: exactly. >> but otherwise what do we expect? >> stephanie: right. and by the way another fyi, george w. bush also called for an assault weapon's ban. >> in the first four years of his administration president obama did more to expand handgun ownership. these are normal rational things and you have nothing to fear. >> yes, but he's black. >> stephanie: all right. ollie north on nra news radio. >> it is now going to be done by executive action. >> shocking! >> that's contrary to my understanding of what the constitution is all about. and i think it's contrary and foreign to most of us. when he raise that right hand and take that oath we don't pledge to a political party, to an individual, unlike many other countries around the world. what we have done is we have now decided that one man can decide w
as the nra and you cannot contribute? >> not at all, part of what we put in the letter to vice president biden who by the way did not blame the industry for violence i note in his remarks. as part of the letter to biden, we said that even if we are not part of the problem, we are willing to be part of the solution. we are interested in contributing to -- to reducing america's problem with violence. and some of the things that we suggest are games are powerful teaching tools and then the teaching potential of games has not been well explored at all. there are some people working in the video game field, some of our members who are working on games for conflict resolution, games for anti-bullying. there are people working on health games to help people who have to take -- who have mental problems to make sure they stay on their medication to gameify people staying, helping themselves to remain safe and to not be a danger. there are many, many things that the gaming industry wants to do to help with this problem. one issue though is that the government has been very slow to fund gaming tech
>>> good morning, i'm thomas roberts. the nra taking off the safety following the meeting at the white house blasting vice president joe biden and the gun task force. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all on what would make a difference. i don't think there's in lack of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. vice president biden who is expected to put out proposals early next week will wrap up several meetings with a sit-down with reps from the video gaming industry and the focused on yesterday's face to face. we were disappointed with how little this meeting has to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the second amendment, biden trying to shut it down. >> i think we can do a great deal without in any way imposing on or i am pinging on the rights of the second amendment. >> what is the real strategy behind the invitation to the nra? a headline reports the administration is trying an end run around the gun
be relief in sight. >>> clashing over gun violence. vice president biden meets with the nra, doesn't go so well. what does it mean for efforts to prevent gun violence? the cost of flu outbreak from you calling in sick and maybe worse, from all of you who aren't. what it's costing us. >>> tornadoes touch down in louisiana, water levels keep rising and more rain on the way. >>> a packed show for you this morning. talk to cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta, dr. anthony fauci, from the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. former new mexico give nor bill richardson, illinois congresswoman january, and t-boz will be joining us. "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point is kind of gross. the flu. a nasty strain running rampant across the country. thousands hospitalized and dozens of people have died. in just a few hours, the cdc will release new numbers on how widespread the flu is. cnn's medical unit got an early look and one expert says we're at epidemic levels. dr. sanjay gupta is in atlanta. what are you expecting to hear? >>
. everybody is for these things except the nra and the gun manufacturers. but who is fueling and funding the gun manufacturers? >> one big question congress may be looking at but bill de de blazio, the public advocate is ahead of these. he is on this case and joins us this morning on our news line. mr. public advocate, good to have you back on the show. >> hi, bill. >> hi, bill. thank for having me. >> we know that the nra -- right, is the lobby now nothing but the lobby for the gun manufacturers. who is behind the gun manufacturers? what have you found. >> who is behind the nra? the gun manufacturers. the nra has that chokehold on the political process and the legislative process in view of house they pointed that out. who is funding the gunfire industry? some of the biggest names in the financial industry. many of whom are based here in new york city or have offices here a couple of days ago, we went out in front of tiger management. but there are many others including black rock and big names that we found are very deeply invested in the guvenz and amm
't behind the violence. the nra step ahead way from discussions and said they were in attack of second amendment. dan lothian has been following developments for us this morning. sol folks said they see some consensus in some areas. when you listen to what the nra said, they sounded very disappointed with the meetings. >> that's right. we sort of expect thad coming in. it wasn't a very big, bold expectation from the nra, saying they were coming to simply listen to what the administration had to put out there. the vice president did talk about some things floating to the top. not recommendations that come from him, but recommendations he said coming from all the various groups he has been meeting with. at the top of the list is a total universal background check, including private sales of guns, second on that list, a ban on high-capacity ammunition clips and also talked about the need for the federal government to get more research. get their hands on more information that he believes will prevent more gun violence in the future. pushback from the nra saying that they were troubled by
strategy behind the invitation to the nra? a headline reports the administration is trying an end run around the gun lobby. will the task force do little else than help the white house's end game and hurt the nra brand? >> if you're a survivalist and you believe the federal government is coming to kill you and your children, if that's your view, your paranoid sick twisted view, fine, good luck continuing to get the republicans to jump in your pickup truck and drive off the cliff towards political oblivion. >> it doesn't appear the movie and gaming industries are as well. we'll know more after today's meetings. joining me is attorney general bo biden. as we talk about what happened yesterday with the nra meeting with the vice president at the white house, the first time the nra is invited in two decades. does this legitimize the nra is being that powerful in washington, d.c.? >> i think what -- and i speak as attorney for the state of delaware not the administration, you see a task force led by the vice president, my father, to try to meet with all of the stake holders, whether they be
the nra and representatives from the entertainment industry this evening. kathleen sebelius wills attend some of the meetings. it is a big step for president obama's new gun violence task force launched in the wake of the massacre at sandy hook elementary. but it did not necessarily leave many with high expectations. businesses that sell a lot of guns like walmart will also be in on some meetings. those groups are more likely to be influenced by the nra since they're making a big profit off those firearms. and they do not want to appear too entrenched in the white house's anti-gun push. >>> walmart says after the shooting, guns are now one of their highest-selling items. while it does want to help the administration, when that starts to contradict with sales that's where the help stops. the nra obviously has a lot of money and therefore a lot of power going into these talks but gabby giffords' new anti-gun group is looking to counteract that. she and her husband mark kelly kick started a campaign this week that they're calling common sense measures to curb gun violence. now, they're hopi
.r. offensive, so is the national rifle association. politico reporting today the nra is unleashing an army of lobbyists on washington and have you seen this? the nra hitting the president squarely with a new ad spotlighting his own daughters. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools? when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school. >> putting out an ad talking about the president's daughters? >> they are out of step, out of the mainstream, totally out of sync with what's going on in our society and quite frankly, after seeing that, i think some of the people that run that thing are sick. >> joining me now, congressman james clyburn, who serves as assistant democratic leader. sir, good to have you here. first i just want to get your reaction. you have seen that nra ad. what's your reaction? >> first of all, thomas, thank you so much for having me. that is way over the top. i was just taken aback when i heard that this morning. i have no idea who is making the decisions regarding this group. they r
is coming of the gop? some are calling for a make over and a self described former nra partisan, on what it will take to put a stop to the gun violence, that has killed more than 2 million people since newtown. thousands from all over the country gathered, including 100 people from newtown, connecticut, all of them rallied on the national mall, calling for action. a leading liberal voice in the senate will be retiring in 2014. tom harkin said today, quote, it's just time to step aside. he came to washington in 1994 and was a key backer of the 2010 health care bill and congressman paul ryan today spelling out what he learned from the re-election. the re-election of president obama, he is speaking at the national review summit and talking about his experience as a vice presidential candidate, he said moving forward the gop has to layout their vision with more specifics and with a broader appeal. meanwhile, this coming week the president will be unveiling the next step in his second term agenda. immigration. he is going to announce his plan to overhaul immigration. joining me now from the w
insight into that fascinating meeting today at the white house between vice president biden and the nra. what can the vice president, what can the white house reasonably expect to get out of the nra today? >> the nra is going to go in there with a conciliatory face. they're being smart. they're sending not their top lobbyist but an official who has worked with biden over the years, worked with him in the '90s in the senate, is actually friends with him from the delaware beach, jim baker, the nra's number two, but he's coming with a very hard message. the nra told me that in the past 18 days, their paid memberships have gone up 100,000. they've gone from 4.1 million to 4.2 million. and they tell me that before this debate is over, they want to get to 5 million. so the nra sees this fight as a growth opportunity. willie, it's $25 a year, you get a free camo duffel bag with that. and we're told that jim baker, the nra lobbyist, is going to tell vice president biden we're willing to discuss, talk to you about any possible constructive solution, but here's the kicker, we listen to people bey
association which has some gun control advocates wondering why since the nra has made it clear it has no interest in supporting legislation or executive action that might help keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. "the washington post" would argue that the administration needs the nra because of the power, at least the perceived power it still has over members of congress and ultimately it going to be a vote to turn a bill into law. this is a friends close enemies closer strategy. >>> while the white house and congress work to craft some sort of legislation on a national level, new york governor andrew cuomo wants his state to be the first to enact new gun laws in the wake of the shooting at newtown. today, he plans to propose a new restrictive assault weapons ban which would strengthen the state law already in place by covering more guns and magazines. new york one of seven states already has some sort of assault weapons ban in place. he's also looking at proposing expanding the use of mental health records and background checks and requiring recertification. we're back wit
something. the nra is not the political force it once was. they have marginalized themselves through their conduct of the last few weeks and we absolutely have a moment in time where we can pass anti-gun violence legislation if the president sticks to his advocacy. >> it's a moment in time but it is still an uphill climb. as you know, the connecticut legislature is considering some major changes to the state's already progressive mental health policy. but what are the chances you and your senate colleagues will agree on comprehensive legislation along the lines of what president obama is proposing? >> i think the chances are high. you've already seen democrats who previously had basically stuck to the nra line, breaking with the nra. you have seen republicans in the house of representatives saying they are willing to consider pretty remarkable gun legislation. i just think this mythology that's been built up about the impossibility of gun reform has been shattered. it's been shattered first by what happened in newtown. everything is different after those 20 kids died. but it's also c
, now what? one of the leading democrats on gun control, chuck schumer said he is in talks with high nra ratings and is in talks with somebody who is perhaps the best rating from the nra, tom coburn, a republican from oklahoma. schumer has delayed releasing his legislation on background checks in hopes to make tom coburn part of this legislation. >> but not necessarily on magazines or assault-type weapons? >> reporter: correct. just on background checks. still sources high up in the democratic party here in the senate say that they simply do not think that those high-capacity magazines or, more importantly, an assault-weapons ban, that that has any chance. they think the background checks has the most realistic of any passing. >> dana, thanks very much. a short time after the hearing ended, gabrielle giffords and her husband, retired astronaut, mark kelly, visited president obama over at the white house. you see a picture that has just now been released. mark kelly is in "the situation room." come on in, mark. we're going to talk about what happened today and where you stand on all of th
the president later this morning. ahead of the announcement, the nra is releasing a new ad with a personal attack against obama. it preemptively criticizes him for not supporting armed guards in schools and it calls him this. >> mr. obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. >> president obama has secret service protection for his daughters, sasha and malia. asking if the president's kids are more important than yours. oh, my goodness, secret service protection, pretty customary for the president and his family. more bill next. these talking points, that the right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. really? i want to have those conversations, not to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying, and i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative unc
regarding comments that the nra is gearing up to sell guns. and former secretary of state colin powell calls out republicans on race. >> there is also a dark vein of intolerance. >> dr. peterson joins me to discuss the republican response. good to have you with us tonight, folks, thank you for joining us. president obama took on the single greatest threat to the economy today, the republican party. the president used the conference in his first term to throw down the gauntlet, and after confusion, president obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now the other imposition is called the debt ceiling. something most americans had not heard of before two years ago. so i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> and of course republicans tried to trick americans into believing the debt ceiling was a blank check or magic credit card for the president to go spend whatever he wanted to
. dan gross of the brady campaign is here with reaction to the president's comments that the nra is joining up fear to sell guns. >>> and former secretary of state colin powell calls out republicans on race. >> there is also a dark -- a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. >> dr. james peterson janes me to discuss the republican response. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama took on the single greatest threat to the global economy today, the republican party. the president used the final news conference of his first term to throw down the gauntlet. after years of deliberate confusion by republicans, president obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now, the other congressionally imposed deadline coming up is the so-called debt ceiling, something most americans hadn't even heard of before two years ago. so i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending t
for the president and taxes. after releasing a ridiculous ad going after the president's children, the nra is attacking again, this time via a fund-raising email, claiming the president is raising $20 million to jam his anti-gun agenda through congress and accuses the administration of trying to quote reduce your freedom to ashes. i warns of mandatory gun confiscation, and a forced buyback program. it sounds a lot like death panels, and the president is not acting alone. president obama is working alongside his rich gun hating friends in hollywood, and michael bloomberg. they fail to mention he is also the mayor of new york city. we're back after the break. arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important. this is not just a spectator sport. [♪ theme music ♪] >> announcer: la
in the nbc news/"wall street journal" about the nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you look at it. even when the nra has a bad day and the media is calling them too aggressive, that's a good day for the nra. that usually ends up working in their favor in terms of membership. but, you know, i think the politics of maligning the nra is probably not a strategically good idea. that poll, for example, showing the favorability numbers, gun sales have skyrocketed, there's been an urgency to vilify the nra. for example, there's an ad out right now, one of a dozen, maligning a congressman named john barrow, a democrat in georgia. it's a democrat-on-democrat sort o
that father. wayne lapierre of the nra will be going to the white house, sorry, to the senate judiciary committee this week. what do you think of the reaction of these lobbyists to a father whose child has been murdered? >> well, leaving aside the fact that the hecklers have no idea what they're talking about in the sense that the second amendment in no way restricts the outlawing of assault weapons, this has to be a new low in the debate. the idea that you would desecrate the memory of the victims of newtown and insult their families. this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of those who wanted to pass the assault weapons ban was to get wi
: i'm going to ask you about this -- the nra's idea about their solution to violence in schools. we'll get into that with our entire team here and take your calls at 1-866-55-press. but first... dan has the big headlines. >> other headlines making news on this tuesday. ann romney, wife to former presidential candidate mitt romney was asked to join the next season of abc's "dancing with the stars." according to tmz. the site reporting she even met with producers several times after her husband lost the election but ultimately decided against appearing on the show. the next season starts in march. cast has not been announced yet. >> bill: what do you think about the fact that ann romney would even consider appearing on "dancing with the stars"? isn't that kind of silly? >> they usually get a political person. she would have been great. >> bill: i can't believe she even gave them the time of day. >> who would have even thought that that would be where she would go in her post-election process? it is just -- you know, you would have to actually deal with the 47%. >> right. >> bill: she
to try to prevent another massacre before the nra gets the floor. what we can expect in a live report this morning. >>> take me out to the hall of fame? today we'll learn the new baseball hall of fame class. should players tainted by the steroid era make it in? >>> the u.s. government spent more than $100 billion to save aig, poster child for the bad bailouts. why is the insurance giant saying it got a raw deal and considering suing the government. >>> and a great white shark threatening florida beaches. how scientists in utah sent a warning. >>> we'll speak with ron johnson, jen psaki, dan shaughnes shaughnessy, and jenn sterger. actress and model who had her own moment with brent musburger. and model cameron russell, who will tell us why she doesn't think girls should be models. "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. starting point this morning, the nra and the white house, 24 hours from a face-to-face gun control conversation. national rifle association confirming it will meet with vice president biden's gun violence panel tomorrow. they don't sown so thrilled a
, this is something the nra, this last proposal, is something the nra says it supports. we'll see. this is going to be a tough road to hoe in congress, we know that, but one of the things about this, brian, one gun control activist said to us this is the most sweeping gun proposals since 1968, following the assassinations of r.f.k. and m.l.k. >> thanks, chuck todd at the white house. again, the late word on what we will be able to ascertain will be in the president's announcement tomorrow. >>> here's the other piece of this, elsewhere in the country, independent of the president and the federal government, state and local governments are acting on their own on gun control. we get that report tonight from nbc's ron allen. >> fire! >> reporter: a nation polarized over guns. teachers in texas and record numbers at this range take concealed handgun training. >> i think it's important for me to get prepared in case i ever do have to defend myself or my students. >> reporter: in chicago, mayor rahm emanuel wants to stop investing city pension funds in companies that make or sell assault weapons. and h
. >> of course are the most high-stakes session is tomorrow's sitdown with members of the nra. nra going little reaction in the brief response to the invite. saying, quote, we got an invite late friday. we are sending a representative to hear what they have to say. with gun advocates floating gun restriction bans on high-capacity magazines what options are truly on the white house for americans as well as the american congress. >> incorporate 00 the challenge is to put something on the table that has some meat to it. as governor cuomo says there's more holes in these laws than a piece of swiss cheese. >> we've got a right to have rifles. we've got a right. but these assault weapons, we don't have that right. >> assault weapons are the drunk driving in a prohibition debate. >> right. >> that's the course here. nobody's talking about prohibition. >> joining me now is mayor villaraigosa of los angeles. mayor, it's good to have you on this morning. as we talk about this, we want to show everybody just a portion of proposals that could come out of the white house gun task force. there's the universa
tread very lightly. they'd better be very careful. they have wandered in and followed the nra whose made some horrible pr mistakes over the past month. republicans better be careful and think twice before they make their next move. >> right. >> remember, one of the reasons the numbers are so high on background checks is because most people believe that those background checks already happened. >> right. >> they don't think that's a change in the law. >> right. >> so you're on really weak ground when people haven't got a clue and they actually support something they think is law. so the education part of it is one aspect of it. but you've also got the sheer power, the emotion of the 9/11 families style approach where you've got the sandy hook families coming in, it's very hard to oppose -- it's not about the president. you've got -- it's not even about bloomberg's money that's going to go into the advertising. the emotional force of the sandy hook families is just like it was with the 9/11 families. and republicans have got to face up to that. frankly, democrats have to face up and grow a
. steve? >> the nra didn't like the way it went, but a big question is how powerful and influential is the nra here on capitol hill? and the answer might be still plenty powerful, despite the massacre in connecticut and today's shotgun shooting in california which left a student wounded. another s.w.a.t. team at a school. another shooting incident. the images from near bakersfield, california hit networks as vice president biden said he'll send to president obama on tuesday a proposal to change u.s. gun laws. >> diminish the probability that what we've seen will okur and diminish the probability that our children are at risk in their schools. >> reporter: biden who met with hunting groups today and the nra, is expected to recommend a new ban on assault weapons and large-capacity clips. and setting up a stronger background check sim. no exceptions for gun shows and the internet market where 40% of guns get sold in and out without any check to stop sales to criminals or the mentally ill. a mass shooting survivor says changing that is job one. not removing the second amendment, that's
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of focus. sam stein updates us on where congress stands in their fight against the nra. >>> governor cuomo and i are as frustrated as two people can be, because unlike people in congress we have actual responsibilities. >> welcome back to "the ed show." 66 days after hurricane sandy devastated communities along the east coast, republicans in congress are delaying a critical disaster relief package. the house, as we told you, was expected to hold a vote on the $660.4 billion bill, but the house speaker pulled the bill from consideration. a remaining $51 billion in aid will get a vote on january 15th. their delay on the hurricane sandy disaster relief package rightfully has members of both parties furious. for more, let's turn to new york congressman jerrold nadler. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> you know, we're not talking about the middle of the country. we're talking about where there is a lot of media, there is millions of people, and yet relief is not on the way. why is that? >> well, we don't really know why it is. and people have raised that ques
. and this is an interesting comparison. 56% is the approval rating that the nra has. the national rifle association. this comes as former president bill clinton at a private meeting was warning fellow democrats about dismissing progun arguments. he said that could be very counter productive for democrats. interesting mix here. byron york joins me now. chief political correspondent for the washington examiner. good to have you with us. >> good morning, mar that are. >> an interesting comparison. if you less ton what the president has been -- if you you listen to what the president has been saying lately he has been really putting gun owners on the defense eastbound. when you look at the numbers the nra in the country is more popular than the president right now. >> sure is. i think it is important to remember in these fights between the two that people have been members of the nra and supporters of the nra for longer than barack obama has been a politician, much less the president. and i should say also that in this fox news poll people had a more favorable impression of the nra not only than presid
the violence. >>> as for yesterday's meeting with the nra that, one didn't go so well. yesterday's talks had nothing to do with keeping our children safe and was more about demonizing the second amendment. the nra statement says the group will "not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and mad men." we know gun sales often skyrocket after mass shootings usually because buyers are afraid of the government imposing stricter gun regulations. we are seeing that in the wake of newtown connecticut. one thing we're also seeing is a big showing from anti-gun groups. in just the last month alone more than 400,000 new members have joined mayors against illegal guns, that's a group started by new york city mayor michael bloomberg and nearly one million people have signed the demand a plan petition calling on obama and congress to outline a course of action to end gun violence. more "bill press show" is up live after the break. stay with us. right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to
. >> all right. we have heard a lot about the political strength of the nra. there was a lot of discussion about whether the president would follow up the speech, the moving speech at the memorial with some kind of executive and legislative component and so i guess my first question to you is how -- what were you anticipating you would see from the president? was this more or less than you thought you would get out of him? >> well, i was glad to see the executive orders. we needed to do something and congress hasn't been exactly the best at acting in the last session, so i'm hopeful we can deal with bigger, broader issues when we actually get to some legislation but i'm glad the president took the initiative and really took the lead. >> that leadership effort is critical. if we can continue that kind of relationship you get the president, the executive branch saying this has got to occur, this is what needs to occur, lay out a format giving congress then a renewed opportunity to pass reform legislation that is going to make a difference in the lives of all of our constituents. >> i felt ve
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